Journalist:
Hello. My
name is Fernando. We are speaking from the BBC in London. Today we have
travelled to the 17th Century and we are interviewing a man who has
recently suffered the expulsion of the Moriscos. Tell me something about you.
Morisco:
Hello, my
name is Abdula Al Abukar and I hope to solve all your doubts.
Journalist:
How did the
government tell you the bad new?
Morisco:
In 1570 we
received a letter signed by the King that told that we had to leave Spain. It
was quite a shocking situation and my family and I thought it was a prank. We got
some information from the government and finally they told us it was true.
Journalist:
When did
they take you and your family?
Morisco:
Well, It´s
a long story.
First of
all we live in Valencia, and because as it´s one of the cities with more
Moriscos, they took us the first ones.
We had many problems because my family and I were taken in different boats,
they told us to calm down that our destination was the same. I arrived first,
and a week later my family and my sons arrived.
Journalist:
Where did
you arrive?
Morisco:
The first week I didn´t recognized the place and
anyone told me where we were. But one day I saw a sign with the name “Rabat”
written and then I realized where I was. I was in the capital of Morocco.
Journalist:
Wow! That should have been a very uncomfortable
situation.
What was your job in Spain and in Morocco?
Morisco:
I worked for a noble in a land where I was the chief,
he gave me that charge because I had been with him my entire live, and we were
near friends. He gave me a house near the land where I lived with my family. Notwithstanding,
in Morocco I work in a land that doesn´t product a lot of harvest, I have to
work more than ten or eleven hours a day, and my salary isn´t as high as in
Spain and I can´t maintain my family.
Journalist:
I´m sorry you haven´t found any other place to work.
Why do you think the king wanted you to leave Spain?
Morisco:
Well, I don´t actually know why he decided to expel my
family and me out of the peninsula.
I converted myself to Christianity, I obeyed every
single law, and I loved Spain; and if I had to die for Spain I would. Three generations
ago, my whole family converted to Christianity. Since then we have all been
Christians, and my wife and I got married in the church. I felt quite bothered.
Do you know the reasons why they expelled us?
Journalist:
Oh, I thought you knew them! Well the main reason was because
you weren´t Christians…
Morisco:
But I had converted to Christianity, and I loved Spain.
I think the decision Philip has taken isn´t the correct one. I think he isn´t
an example of a loyal king. Charles V, in my opinion, he was faithful to his
country because he respected having another religion.
Journalist:
Moving to another topic, let´s talk about your social
situation there in Morocco.
Morisco:
OK. To be honest, it´s totally different. I have no friends,
the food is different… I think I´d have to get used to live in this place.
Every one looks at me as if I was an immigrant. It´s quite annoying.
Journalist:
Yes, I can imagine it. Do your wife or children work?
Morisco:
My wife is a homemaker. She works in house and takes
care of our sons. Otherwise, my sons do not work. They start to work when they
are 12. They are know: 11, 9 and 5.
Journalist:
Do you support this behavior?
Morisco:
Of course not, I think what children should do is go
to school and learn, because I haven´t learnt and I feel like if I were nothing;
and I don´t want that for my children. I try to teach them the things I know. Has
it changed in the future?
Journalist:
Yes. Now it is obligatory to go to school. I´m so sorry
you haven’t gone to school. But it has been a slow process. Nowadays, there are
still countries that don´t have schools.
Just the last question: do you spend time with your
family?
Morisco:
Well, not a lot. I wake up early and they are still
sleeping. At lunch time, I have a sandwich at the land, and of course I cannot
see them. But when I arrive home and can give them lessons and have fun with
them
Journalist:
Thank you very much. I hope you find a better place to
live, and that you spend more time with your family. It has been a pleasure.
Morisco:
Your welcome.
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